The Aftermath

Posted by admin on Jan 4th, 2010 | 1 comment home title

So here we are.

Its been a few hectic days.

Lets have a look at how things turned out.

The punishment was dealt about 19 hours after it happened, the outcome was five suspended tribes. The two LEs getting 24 hours for the use of this loophole that LnO in discussion with Martel deemed to be a bug. 12 hours for three tribes who in the alli channel supported what was happening, not taking part in any way other then writing down their support.

I have no problem with the two 24 hours suspensions, even tho I wouldnt classify it as a bug but rather a loophole which used this way lead to something extreme but still working as intended. I will come back to this later on.

What I find questionable is the suspension of someone who didnt participate at all in this abuse other then writting their support for it, this sets some new and atleast for me totally unheard of standards. I could drop a number of examples here but I guess all of you can imagine how this is just plain stupid.

Lets go through what else this has lead to.

Martel posted a “Stricter rules for Game Talk” topic in Game Talk, calling for a more strict forum section to apparently make sure the staff doesnt miss valid points amongst the “spam” taking place there.

Alliances at War has now a third version, the three are: The Live one, a Balancing server and an Experimental server, this is to finally try to avoid having us players being beta testers every single age.

Light Elf should now be fixed. No question about it that that was needed.

Balrog was just after the initial suspension of the tribes be changed at the same time as Light Elf, this has apparently been changed and nothing seems to be done about them until next age change.

The aatw staff will apparently try to communicate better in the future.

Martel himself says he doesnt have an official comment about this whole situation atm.

Personally Ive now also been kicked out of #orkstaff, not that I had any official reason being there in the first place but Ive been there for around a year and a half, so I guess its quite a statement on how this statement we did with LE was not appreciated.

Martel himself said when he first logged in and saw this that he was upset that we went this far and that we could had gotten to him about this with a way less aggresive way. Thats just the problem tho, it wasnt Martel we tried to reach, it was the Head of devlopment we tried to reach.

Someone might say that we could had convinced Iluros with something less abusive and easier, well fact remains, he himself was a 9k balrog and couldnt see anything wrong when his main job is development which includes balancing not just having a race in pushing through changes.

We had the same issue with the whole toughness and industry thing, we even started a petition here on the portal which quite a few people signed, me and quite a few with me were pleased to see it getting delayed atleast for another age.

Someone might now argue that there is no one in charge in the dev team, that suprises atleast me a bit since it clearly states Iluros as head of dev. Lets see what else people we have in aatw dev.

Iluros
Joe
Bolle
Halcyon
Amiralla
Robokop

We have covered Iluros. Joe stated in game talk that he voiced the opinion in dev that Balrogs were/are overpowered, he even went so far as playing as them to prove it, this however was changed when KP went all Eagles thus making his statement ruined.

Bolle were at the time arguing for Balrogs, not seeing the obvious flaw with them.

Halcyon is for those that isnt aware of it playing in #17, the alliance that consisted of six balrogs (is now five cause one reset), having 50% of one race can only be described as intentional, I don’t believe any of the players in #17 are stupid so they gotta have been aware of the overpowerness in the race.

Amiralla has been inactive during this period of time so I assume he havent taken part of the discussion in dev.

Robokop is obiviously against Balrogs overpowerness since it was him and me that were the two Light Elves.

If dev had been a democratic group without a lord/head of resort then it should had been Joe & Robokop vs. Iluros & Bolle with Halcyon as a joker. Since Balrogs is overpowered I can only assume that IF the aatw dev is democratic then Halcyon joined with Iluros and Bolle.

So either way democratic or with a special leader it still came down to convincing Iluros.

Something that seems to keep occuring is that everyone is blaming someone else, ppl in staff are blaming eachothers, some staff even goes so far to blame the players for not doing the balancing for them.

This community is small but great, but it is not our job to find the flaws in stupid pushed changes, now that sentence and sure this whole article might have pissed someone off but the fact still remains, we are not some beta testers, before you go all defensive on your ass spend some extra thoughts on whats being said. Before its to late.

Cheers

~A player who gotten tired of seeing the devs misstakes beeing blamed on the players a.k.a Acwder

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